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would u fight in the war thats going on right now?
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Topic: Would you start a war? (Read 6933 times)
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depp_lover23
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Would you start a war if you were president, I mean for the right reasons. Like if you were in our situation right now.
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'our' being the United States of America?
Is peace worth the cost of war?
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"Once you're dead you're made for life." Jimi Hendrix
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depp_lover23
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Well I think it's a stupid Idea but hey that's me.
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.gif) Why are there no clouds in the sky? -Billie-Joe Armstrong Because God wants to hear his favorite band play again! -Tre' Cool
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Kid
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Its a hard question, if my contry was in danger i would, although sending people out knowing most of them will die is a terrible thing.
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We who are truly brave will never live in fear
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accha_larki
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i wouldnt want to. I've read about the horrors of war and i dont think anyone should go through war. If i were president, i would think of other ways to get what i desired without war. If another country wanted to begin a war with me, well i'd try reasonning and if that doesnt work.all i can say to my ennemies DIE ENNEMY DIE.
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hulkamania will live 4ever
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Would you start a war if you were president, I mean for the right reasons. Like if you were in our situation right now.
there are no rite reasons for starting a war so i would never attempt to i think that the whole army thing is totally wrong and i dont like soliders from any country. its not that i have any thing against them its just i dont agree with wat they do and i never will! ash xx
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BikerChick
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Unfortunately, war is sometimes necessary. The United States was attacked by terrorists. Just under 3,000 innocent people were killed (they were not soldiers, remember). We could not sit around and twiddle our thumbs. Retaliation was necessary. To do nothing is a weakness. Sometimes it's true: "Peace through superior fire power."
What if someone came into your house and killed your family and you knew who it was. Would you just sit there and mutter, "They're just misunderstood. Let's forgive them and make peace with them." If that happened to me, justice would be necessary. On the global scale, justice can mean war. You can not negotiate with terrorists. Religious fanatics believe they are morally superior. It is wrong to kill 3,000 innocent people, but they just want to further their cause in any way possible. The United States cannot allow terrorists to come into our country and kill people without reprecussions. Period.
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« Last Edit: April 19, 2005, 09:22:43 am by BikerChick »
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It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars.
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Agent Smith
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Wars (at least ones that the US is involved in or starts) are necessary to preserve freedom. Freedom is something that Americans believe is a God-given right of EVERY HUMAN on this Planet. Our influence should be enough to make other countries want to change, but that's not the case--people out there are still power-mongers who rely on keeping people oppressed and persecuting them for actions and words that they should be free to say and do. The "pointless" war that is going on right now was in fact sparked by the terrorist acts of 9/11. Yes, Iraq may have been at the wrong place and time, but 9/11 was used as an excuse to free these people from a leader who didn't believe in freedom for his people. A man like MLK Jr. would have been tortured for weeks before being killed after his FIRST public outcry for equal rights if he were born in any other country. People like him opened the doors for freedom on a global basis in more ways than we know. One day I hope freedom reaches across the entire globe, but it really doesn't look like that's going to happen. I believe it can happen. It won't though, because there will always be someone who wants to run the show and do so in a forceful manner. Freedom also means that you are free to worship any God or religion you choose and if your neighbor doesn't like it--too bad. This is not the case in the Middle East, where Muslim extremists will kill you for being another religion.
People need to see the bottom line. Freedom is the reward of war. In most cases. Iraq is a mess right now, but it will get cleaned up eventually. Wars are also started because groups of people (nations) settled and were born in certain locales worldwide, they recognized that place as their country (technically a "country" is just the area where you live or were born in, not actual "countries" as in "nations" which are technically states). A country can run through two or three different states. Look at eastern Europe and the way its ethnic groups are divided. Well, those people want their groups of people--their country, to be one, and not three parts divided by three "states" with different governing bodies. They want their country to be its own and governed by one body which they see fit. This is why you see "countries" (used in the common sense now, meaning the nation) like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia break up into different "countries," now like the Czech Republic and Slovenia-- it is those groups of people that live in those lands that want to be together, recognized as a NATION.
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ol-lazar
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Would you start a war if you were president, I mean for the right reasons. Like if you were in our situation right now.
No Unfortunately, war is sometimes necessary. The United States was attacked by terrorists. Just under 3,000 innocent people were killed (they were not soldiers, remember). We could not sit around and twiddle our thumbs. Retaliation was necessary. To do nothing is a weakness. Sometimes it's true: "Peace through superior fire power."
What if someone came into your house and killed your family and you knew who it was. Would you just sit there and mutter, "They're just misunderstood. Let's forgive them and make peace with them." If that happened to me, justice would be necessary. On the global scale, justice can mean war. You can not negotiate with terrorists. Religious fanatics believe they are morally superior. It is wrong to kill 3,000 innocent people, but they just want to further their cause in any way possible. The United States cannot allow terrorists to come into our country and kill people without reprecussions. Period.
Wars (at least ones that the US is involved in or starts) are necessary to preserve freedom. Freedom is something that Americans believe is a God-given right of EVERY HUMAN on this Planet. Our influence should be enough to make other countries want to change, but that's not the case--people out there are still power-mongers who rely on keeping people oppressed and persecuting them for actions and words that they should be free to say and do. The "pointless" war that is going on right now was in fact sparked by the terrorist acts of 9/11. Yes, Iraq may have been at the wrong place and time, but 9/11 was used as an excuse to free these people from a leader who didn't believe in freedom for his people. A man like MLK Jr. would have been tortured for weeks before being killed after his FIRST public outcry for equal rights if he were born in any other country. People like him opened the doors for freedom on a global basis in more ways than we know. One day I hope freedom reaches across the entire globe, but it really doesn't look like that's going to happen. I believe it can happen. It won't though, because there will always be someone who wants to run the show and do so in a forceful manner. Freedom also means that you are free to worship any God or religion you choose and if your neighbor doesn't like it--too bad. This is not the case in the Middle East, where Muslim extremists will kill you for being another religion.
People need to see the bottom line. Freedom is the reward of war. In most cases. Iraq is a mess right now, but it will get cleaned up eventually. Wars are also started because groups of people (nations) settled and were born in certain locales worldwide, they recognized that place as their country (technically a "country" is just the area where you live or were born in, not actual "countries" as in "nations" which are technically states). A country can run through two or three different states. Look at eastern Europe and the way its ethnic groups are divided. Well, those people want their groups of people--their country, to be one, and not three parts divided by three "states" with different governing bodies. They want their country to be its own and governed by one body which they see fit. This is why you see "countries" (used in the common sense now, meaning the nation) like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia break up into different "countries," now like the Czech Republic and Slovenia-- it is those groups of people that live in those lands that want to be together, recognized as a NATION.
Is that a yes?In some regards I do agree withboth of you.Still, also America must admit mistakes. There was a time before the 11th September, in which the USA used to support people like Saddam Hussein,Usama Bin Laden&co.These might be the ghosts of the cold war.The bottom line to me is that war is a bad policy, failed policy. 11th September was awful and of course the USA had to react.The way they reacted is controversial. All the same.I'm glad that in his need for reaction ,Bush put the full blame on the Taliban and not on some European country the assassins used to live in .I really didn't like those guys and it was time for them to go.First you supported them,raised them against the Soviets,gave them instruction and arms,finally you destroyed them.Very good,but I still wonder, how can you claim to fight for peace if you did support regimes in Afghanistan or in Iraq when it was of profit? Besides, the majority of the assassins came from a land called Saudi Arabia (16 of 19 ? I don't know exactly). Also bin Laden = Saudi Arabia. In fact, the enemy would have to be Saudi Arabia, wouldn't it? No, Saudi Arabia tolerates American military bases and is a good trading partner.The Iraq has been under export embargo for many years , the Americans blocked the Iraqi oil export, obviously Saddam had other buyers. The Iraqi oil flowed into lands like Kazachstan or Russia and back there came weapons. The oil and with it also the money flow past the Americans.To stop this illigal and even dangerous oil trade it was necessary to eliminate Saddam.But what has 9'11 to do with it??
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willingmind
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In my opinion, it is one thing to go to war in defense of one's country especially after being attacked and another to side step the main objective in pursuit of profit. You can tart up the reasons all you want but an unrighteous war is selling your soul down the river. Sure some good is going to come of it but I wonder why more people are not really upset and scared that any nation's government can push their agenda through so easily. Not to mention the total lack of responsibility and accountability. Perhaps this is an awfully simplistic view. Even naive maybe. But I truly believe right and wrong is not that complicated. Or, for some Yoda wisdom, there is what you do and what you don't do.
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hulkamania will live 4ever
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Unfortunately, war is sometimes necessary. The United States was attacked by terrorists. Just under 3,000 innocent people were killed (they were not soldiers, remember). We could not sit around and twiddle our thumbs. Retaliation was necessary. To do nothing is a weakness. Sometimes it's true: "Peace through superior fire power."
What if someone came into your house and killed your family and you knew who it was. Would you just sit there and mutter, "They're just misunderstood. Let's forgive them and make peace with them." If that happened to me, justice would be necessary. On the global scale, justice can mean war. You can not negotiate with terrorists. Religious fanatics believe they are morally superior. It is wrong to kill 3,000 innocent people, but they just want to further their cause in any way possible. The United States cannot allow terrorists to come into our country and kill people without reprecussions. Period.
k i do get wat ur sayin but say tat did happen 2 me i still would never kill r attempt 2 kill tat person because i believe that they will get punished badly 4 their sins. and yes it isnt rite tat those terrorists killed 3,000 innocent people but if u do the same 2 them as wat they did 2 u den u become as bad as them! its a known fact! ash xx
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marky_mark
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hell yea i would
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WurmtheMighty
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When you think about it, war is nothing more then legalized insanity. A country gives a bunch of kids guns and tells them to go kill the other country's kids. And also, alot of the time it is over things as simple as politics (which actually is appearantly not so simple if people will kill eachother over it.) People will sign up to be killed and throw their life away over this entire thing. But why do we accept war, if it is this crazy?
War has been around since the begining of humanity, even when t was just the cro-magnon's being killed to extinction by the neandrathals (or vice versa im not too sure.) As humanity has matured, this concept of killing eachother has matured with us. Because we have grown up with constant wars, we have learned to accept them as normal.
What worries me is that people's ability to kill each other is far more advanced then their ability to protect themselves. I may never be around to see it though, O well, we can all kill eachother.
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